Why do you need lye to make soap? (FAQS)

Learn why you need lye to make soap and how to handle it safely.

a row of three natural face soaps

Our great great grandmothers made soap without having to use a caustic chemical, so why do we?

The short answer is that our grandmothers manufactured their own caustic chemical of sorts, called potash, by combining hardwood ashes and water.

This created an extremely strong alkaline substance that was considered ready when it would dissolve a chicken feather. The caustic wood ash solution was then mixed with fat rendered from butchered animals and boiled over an outdoor fire for many hours until a soft soap was formed.

While this method resulted in a truly natural soap, it was also difficult to control the quality of the final product.

These days, we have standardized substitutes to replace that wood ash solution:

  • Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH) – also called caustic soda or lye; creates solid bars of soap
  • Potassium Hydroxide (KOH) – is used to make liquid soaps

Using these types of lye and precise measurements, we’re able to consistently produce batch after batch of gentle soap.

 

two bars of natural soap colored with pink clay

What happens if you leave the lye out of a recipe?

Without lye, the oils in your recipe would stay oils. Nothing would happen to them.

A chemical change involving lye must happen in order to create soap.

 

Can you use glycerin instead of lye?

Some people mistakenly believe that glycerin can be used instead of lye. Glycerin (a humectant that’s good for your skin) is actually a byproduct of the soapmaking process and will not transform oils into soap.

If you try to use glycerin instead of lye in a soap recipe, it would be sort of like trying to start a fire with a fresh rose petal instead of a match. It just won’t work.

However, you can buy ready made glycerin soap bases (melt and pour soap, which is high in glyerin) if you don’t want to handle the lye part at home. (See my blog post “Making Soap Without Lye (Sort Of)” for more on melt and pour soaps.)

 

a bar of simple soap decorated with forget me not and elderflowers

What about organic and natural store-bought soaps? Aren’t they lye free?

All true soaps are made with some form of lye. If not, then they’re detergent based products.

Some, like Dr. Bronner’s soaps, are made simply with just lye, oils and a few natural extras. Others, like Dove, are made with a combination of lye and detergents.

You can tell if a soap is made with lye, by looking for the following clues in the ingredients:

  • “sodium tallowate” = beef fat reacted with sodium hydroxide (lye for bar soap)
  • “potassium tallowate” = beef fat reacted with potassium hydroxide (lye for liquid or cream soaps)
  • “sodium olivate” or “potassium olivate” = olive oil reacted with lye
  • “sodium cocoate” or “potassium cocoate” = coconut oil reacted with lye
  • “sodium lardate” = pig fat reacted with lye
  • “saponified” means that one of more of the oils have been reacted with some form of lye
  • example: “saponified organic coconut oil” = coconut oil reacted with sodium hydroxide (bar soap) or potassium hydroxide (liquid soap)

 

How can such a strong substance create a mild and gentle soap?

You need lye to make soap, even natural ones, but it just doesn’t make sense at first thought, does it?

Hopefully, this section will give a better idea of how that happens.

With apologies to real chemists everywhere, below is a super-simplified illustration of how lye (sodium hydroxide) and oils/fats (glycerol & fatty acids) combine to make soap. In the presence of heat and water, the “fatty acids” bond with the “sodium” part of sodium hydroxide and form soap. The “glycerol” and “hydroxide” parts form glycerin, which is great for your skin. No lye (sodium hydroxide) is left in the final soap!

Isn’t chemistry amazing?!

a graphic showing how lye and oils transform into soap

 

Are you afraid of lye?

If so, you’re not alone; many people are. I can relate, because I was the same way! When I first started making soap, I was terrified at the thought of using lye and had my husband handle that part. After making my first successful batch of soap though, I realized…. lye isn’t that scary after all!

If you’ve ever safely worked with bleach or another strong household chemical, you should be able to handle lye just fine. The main thing to remember is that it’s a caustic substance. Just like bleach, you don’t want to drink it or get it in your eyes or on your skin. The fumes aren’t good to breathe in either.

There’s no need to fear lye, but it does deserve a good deal of respect and care when handling.

I’ll share a list of safety tips below.

 

cutting handmade soap with a wooden soap cutter

Lye Safety Tips

1. Always wear gloves and goggles to protect your hands and eyes when working with lye and raw soap. (Raw soap is less than 24 hours old.)

2. If you get lye solution or raw soap on your skin, rinse thoroughly with lots of cool water. Don’t worry that a brief exposure will eat your skin off or anything drastic like that; it feels similar to a stinging sunburn until it’s rinsed off, but you do want to rinse it off quickly. While some soapers like to use vinegar in an effort to neutralize lye, the majority of safety experts recommend plain water. If lye solution gets in your eyes, rinse repeatedly with cool water and call your eye doctor for an emergency visit. (Always wear your goggles though, and this should not happen!)

3. Always add lye to water, and not the other way around. You can remember this by thinking about snow flakes falling on a lake. (Flakes of lye, falling on the water.) If you mix up the order (and I have before), it won’t blow up or anything, but could bubble up and overflow out of a small container. In my case, nothing out of the ordinary happened, but still, it’s good to go by the recommended order. I also suggest mixing the lye solution in your kitchen sink to contain any spills.

4. When lye first meets water, it gets really hot, really fast. Use room temperature or cooler water/liquids, since warm liquids can overheat and overflow. Don’t use glass for this part because it could shatter. The lye solution will also give off strong fumes for about 30 seconds or so. Don’t breathe these in and be sure to work in an area with good air flow, or even outside. If you have breathing problems or are concerned about the fumes, wear a respirator mask.

5. Don’t leave bottles of lye, or containers of lye solution, around where pets, children, or other members of the household could accidentally spill or drink them. Drinking lye can be fatal to both humans and pets. Don’t make soap with pets or small children around.

* Remember, these safety tips are in place to help prevent worst-case scenarios. People make soap all over the world, every day, without incident. Work carefully and responsibly at all times.

 

Want to learn more about making your own soap?

For natural soap recipes, tutorials and inspiration, along with access to my private Facebook support group, be sure to check out my Natural Soap Making Ebook Collection:

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Why do you need lye to make soap? Learn why we use lye (sodium hydroxide) to make soap, plus how to handle it safely in this informative post.

 

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4 Responses to Why do you need lye to make soap? (FAQS)

  1. Great explanation, I get tgis question a lot. I am curious to try the potash method though.

  2. Kristin Freeman says:

    great information in this post – thank you very much

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